i've been enjoying all of the discussions here for a good while now.
i found this site as i was researching things about this religion i've been in (finally after nagging curiosity and questions) but i wanted to figure things out more before coming on here and posting.
i'm glad to see that im not alone or crazy!
Hi and welcome. I remember when I first figured out the apostate boogeypeople were not fire breathing vitriolic meanies. they were just people. Some hurt, some healing, and some just living and supporting others.
So my first question is basically what was the catalyst for "waking up". I'm always curious, because I'm always thinking about what actually works with people.
i guess this article will be appreciated within the jw community, being on the positive side when discussing blood transfusion.
it is the first of three articles to be published in that prestigious magazine.. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-jehovahs-witnesses-are-changing-medicine.
The email address I found is this.
I sent her a nice e mail complimenting the article. Clearly she has focused on the aspect of their impact. I basically asked her to consider that while this has been an unintended virtue related to their refusal of blood, that many have died for this campaign.
I also mentioned the fact it is enforceable through shunning, and for her to consider the element that creates in the doctor patient relationship. How many JW's behind closed doors say give me the blood?......lots!
i guess this article will be appreciated within the jw community, being on the positive side when discussing blood transfusion.
it is the first of three articles to be published in that prestigious magazine.. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-jehovahs-witnesses-are-changing-medicine.
Anyone know how I could get a staff writer for the new yorkers e mail? I would love to correspond with her regarding her series. It looks like there are 2 more to come.
I thought the article was fair. It wasn't untrue, and seemed pretty concise.
i guess this article will be appreciated within the jw community, being on the positive side when discussing blood transfusion.
it is the first of three articles to be published in that prestigious magazine.. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-jehovahs-witnesses-are-changing-medicine.
It is narrow minded to consider changes in medicine that are positive in this regard as somehow brought about by Jehovahs Witnesses. They are brought about by good science and the practice of medicine as a "do no harm" culture. The desire of JW's to refuse blood many times to their own peril in emergency situations, is very different that a desire to perhaps be willing to increase risk during surgery by not making it available as a tool.
The flat fact is JW's still die from this. Doctors try to keep people from dying. So while respecting peoples wishes in non emergency matters in particular, they also find out that perhaps the industry has not evolved away from this system as much as it could have. The reality is that as science and progression makes blood less and less necessary, or focuses more on fraction compounds and specialty treatment, that JW's take a victory lap.
they shouldn't. They are missing the point of their own doctrine.
what do you think of the following line of reasoning for helping a jw start to think about what they are admitting.. (essentially, the organisations way of handling child abuse has been wrong, harm has been caused, god is now putting it right.).
reply:.
"i appreciate your honesty, in admitting that child abuse has not been handled in the right way in the past.
Oh man. This is just killing me. The amount of logical denial of all that is remotely reasonable is just to much to stand.
So the RC is being used by Jehovah to fix this issue......in australia......this far into the issue......after his spirit let the org do all this mess in a compounding way through policies, rouge elders, the service desk, and a coordinated effort to not "bring reproach".
Why would he choose Australia? Doesn't want it to be too noticeable?
If it isn't that, then its them being persecuted. There is no winning here.
quick backstory:raised a jw, ms, reg pioneer, international need greater work.
i have been da for 2 years, divorced, ex and my son live 6 hours away near walkill ny.. my sons first talk is coming up, in august.
he is 7 years old.
Hey Luke,
thanks for sharing something so personal. I'm glad you enjoyed it. It can be very odd to be back with your eyes open. Very strange comments indeed! Makes we worry about what my children would be getting used to as normal, if they were still there.
I gave a sit down first talk with my sister, when I was 5. Mainly due to nerves, and the stool wasn't big enough yet. I still remember my first talk on my own. Jonah and the big fish. It might as well have been "the Care Bear Stare, and what it can do for you!".
I hope and it sounds like you still have visitation? Does he get to be with you often? If so, you just keep doing what you are doing. Showing support, and not letting them be the only ones giving him community.
as has been observed in western congos, the decline is real.. usa is 12.475 % less -2015 vs 2014.
sorry as this topic may have been covered many times but any thoughts or links to other topics on how the pro-jw websites are commenting on this.. rub a dub.
hello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.
it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.
it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.
I would pay good money for the following question to be asked publicly.
Do you believe that the Australian government and by extension this RC is ultimately controlled by Satan?
if you have heard g. jackson speak you can tell that he is smooth.
he is a good speaker with a commanding voice.
i think the gb knew this was going to happen and prepped him to testify.
Interesting thought, but he is not a ringer. One of the better speakers in the organization for sure, but not a ringer.
I think he will absolutely not appear by "invitation". Only if there is legal action forcing him to appear and rendering his passport useless until he does, will he show up. It certainly just isn't going to happen. I'm sure there will be some crazy conflagration with some moment Jesus said screw you to the Sanhedrin or something.
